Hillary Clinton has a new campaign, with her daughter, Chelsea: Telling the Stories of Courageous Women in a new docuseries on Apple TV+ called “Gutsy.”
CBS Evening News anchor Norah O’Donnell asked the Clintons, “How would you describe a brave woman?”
“I think a bold woman is determined to make the most of her own life,” Hillary replied, “but also to try to use whatever skills, talents, perseverance she has to lead others.”
“And you can do it in any area or any field,” Chelsea added. “And so, whether it was sports, activism or the arts, it was really important to us that there was a wide range of women who have been extremely courageous for themselves and for their communities. .”
“Do you think people As brave women? asked O’Donnell.
“I think some people like brave women,” Hillary said. “I think some people are scared and threatened by brave women. I think some are put off by brave women.”
To watch a trailer for “Gutsy”, click on the video player below:
Women like comedian Amy Schumer, whom they met for tea. Schumer admitted to them, “I spent ten years being mostly trolled. You won’t be able to understand that.”
“Not at all!” Hillary replied
Schumer described the attitude she faced professionally: “We want this other version of woman. We want you to be pretty and calm and outgoing.”
“And only a supporting actor,” Chelsea added.
The series shows the former first lady and first daughter, who was mostly hidden from public view, in a new light.
Hillary said, “I’m not part of the generation that grew up with rappers – male or female. And Chelsea have been trying for years to educate both Bill and me.”
“It’s an ongoing effort,” Chelsea said with a laugh.
That’s how the former presidential candidate found herself painting with Grammy-winning artist Megan Thee Stallion.
O’Donnell asked, “Did you really listen to his music?”
“Yeah. Yeah,” Hillary replied.
Chelsea said: “Ask her, did she really listen to it before the Apple TV+ series?”
“No. The answer is no. But you did.”
” I did it. But my mom did all her homework, Norah!
“What did you like about [Megan]?” O’Donnell asked.
“I thought she wasn’t apologizing for the way she claimed her sexual self,” Hillary said. “She’s got a stage persona. She just put it out there, you know, she kind of opened up.”
“Good,” Chelsea said. “Deal with it or ignore me, but don’t belittle me or patronize me. »
The series tackles difficult subjects. One episode is entirely devoted to the rejection of hatred.
O’Donnell said: “I was also struck, Chelsea, when you said you don’t remember a time when hatred and the ‘whisper of violence’ didn’t surround your family.”
“It’s true, Norah. I mean, I remember being a little girl in Arkansas and people were yelling hateful things at us, at my parents. I remember back in 1992, when my dad was running for in the presidency and someone threw a bag full of blood that was probably red food coloring, but they said, you know, ‘That’s blood from an aborted baby, that should have been you.’ Like really active hateful rhetoric and actions that just permeated life when I was a kid.”
Personal experiences punctuate nearly every episode, like Hillary’s revelation about why she wears pantsuits. “I did not know this story! Chelsea burst out laughing. “This is, by far, the biggest revelation I’ve had.”
A state visit to Brazil resulted in incriminating photos: “I was sitting on a couch,” Hillary recalls, “and the press was allowed in. There were a lot of them shooting at each other. “
Some of these photos were then used to sell lingerie. “And all of a sudden the White House is alerted by these billboards that show me sitting with it, I thought my legs were together, but the way it’s shot, it’s kind of suggestive. And then I also started having the experience of having photographers all the time, I’d be on a stage, I’d be walking up stairs, and they’d be below me.”
“It’s so scary!” said Chelsea.
“I just couldn’t handle it. So I started wearing pants.”
While pantsuits might be synonymous with Hillary Clinton, it’s another move she’s well known for and considers bold. “The bravest thing I’ve ever done in private was to stay in my marriage,” Hillary said. “It wasn’t easy, and it was something only I could decide. And then in my public life, running for president. I mean, it was tough. It was really tough! And it was, you know, trying to be on this tightrope with no net, and no one in front of me because it hadn’t been done before.”
O’Donnell said, “I guess I was surprised you said staying in your marriage was bolder than running for president.”
“Well, it was, in terms of my private life. It was really difficult. And as you know, everyone had an opinion about it. People I had never met had very strong reviews on it! And it took a lot of honest prayer and reflection and talking to people I totally trusted to really think about it, because it was all in public, Norah. So that made it even more painful and difficult. But I have no regrets.”
Having no regrets, for Hillary and Chelsea Clinton, is another expression of courage, which they hope has universal appeal.
O’Donnell said: “There seems to be an underlying message in this whole show that you’re trying to show women, tell women, be brave, to defend yourself.”
“Exactly,” Hillary said.
“And also, Norah, in the hope that the examples of these women can inspire anyone who might watch,” Chelsea said.
“Men and boys, not just women and girls,” her mother added.
“But I also think that people can hopefully see some of their own lives, whether it’s their own struggles, their own opportunities in the women’s stories that we share, so that they can then hopefully- the, being a little closer to feeling, ‘Well, I can be brave too.'”
For more information:
- “Vivid” debuts on Apple TV+ on September 9.
Story produced by Kay Lim, Julie Kracov and Julie Morse. Publisher: Lauren Barnello.